True but nothing like the test of umpteen corners and all of the gubbins involved with F1.
Full throttle until it's time to get new boots !
Please !
Full throttle until it's time to get new boots !
Please !
Formula One
13-03-08, 12:02 AM
#17
The pit crew move though... it's hard to hit them
the boy with the three stripes
13-03-08, 12:11 AM
#19
I'm not a nascar apologist (though I am a fan these days), but it's infinitely more skillful that you're giving credit for. I used to make all the same arguments as a dyed in the wool F1 fan.
Let's face it, most F1 races are as exciting as watching paint dry. Even live. I sat on the inside of Copse for the '96 British GP and the only exciting bit was when Damon Hill's wheel fell off and Jacques went through to win (yeah, the rest of the stand wasn't too happy about our cheering). I've been to the USGP, slightly more exciting. The Canadian GP is usually one of the few good ones on the calendar.
Even without traction control and a standard ECU, the car does so much of the work for the driver in F1. In NASCAR you've got the throttle, brake and h-pattern gear shift. Driver skill plays a far bigger role.
It's obviously comparing apples to oranges, but one thing to remember is a F1 race is a 200 mile sprint, with 21 opponents, while a NASCAR race is a 500 mile marathon with 42 opponents.
Let's face it, most F1 races are as exciting as watching paint dry. Even live. I sat on the inside of Copse for the '96 British GP and the only exciting bit was when Damon Hill's wheel fell off and Jacques went through to win (yeah, the rest of the stand wasn't too happy about our cheering). I've been to the USGP, slightly more exciting. The Canadian GP is usually one of the few good ones on the calendar.
Even without traction control and a standard ECU, the car does so much of the work for the driver in F1. In NASCAR you've got the throttle, brake and h-pattern gear shift. Driver skill plays a far bigger role.
It's obviously comparing apples to oranges, but one thing to remember is a F1 race is a 200 mile sprint, with 21 opponents, while a NASCAR race is a 500 mile marathon with 42 opponents.
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13-03-08, 12:14 AM
#20
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13-03-08, 12:16 AM
#21
HOLD ON ONE MINUTE>>>
Please please DO NOT think that I am a Nascar fan...
I am not one of those bumblefuck inbred redneck a$$holes. There is nothing worse than the "Left Turn" circuit. I had to host one of my customers last year at a Nascar race in Fontana, Fedex has a car and a suite. It was the worst day in my life. NEVER AGAIN.
F-1 is a respectable sport, I was simply making the observation that no one here in the states cares about it. I have a customer that is a French company and the Exec's talk F-1 all the time.
Soccer, however... I don't care for. And I've been to the MLS championship game before and have witnessed soccer in all it's boring ass glory. It's still not a sport. It's a riot.
My favortie sports... College Football (Fight on!) & Ice Hockey.
Please please DO NOT think that I am a Nascar fan...
I am not one of those bumblefuck inbred redneck a$$holes. There is nothing worse than the "Left Turn" circuit. I had to host one of my customers last year at a Nascar race in Fontana, Fedex has a car and a suite. It was the worst day in my life. NEVER AGAIN.
F-1 is a respectable sport, I was simply making the observation that no one here in the states cares about it. I have a customer that is a French company and the Exec's talk F-1 all the time.
Soccer, however... I don't care for. And I've been to the MLS championship game before and have witnessed soccer in all it's boring ass glory. It's still not a sport. It's a riot.
My favortie sports... College Football (Fight on!) & Ice Hockey.
13-03-08, 12:20 AM
#22
come on, farmer, a real hockey fan never calls it ice hockey!
soccer is a hard one to understand from the North American perspective, but I got into it from being in England during Euro '96. When the entire city of London seemed to be chanting David Seaman's name during the penalties v Spain (memory correct here?) it was pretty amazing.
We've got a MLS team here now and it's absolute pandemonium. Definitely better atmosphere and more fun than the Leafs, Raptors or Blue Jays. And tickets are ridiculous. Paid $500 last year for our 2 seasons tickets.
soccer is a hard one to understand from the North American perspective, but I got into it from being in England during Euro '96. When the entire city of London seemed to be chanting David Seaman's name during the penalties v Spain (memory correct here?) it was pretty amazing.
We've got a MLS team here now and it's absolute pandemonium. Definitely better atmosphere and more fun than the Leafs, Raptors or Blue Jays. And tickets are ridiculous. Paid $500 last year for our 2 seasons tickets.
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13-03-08, 12:36 AM
#23
zwer Wrote:come on, farmer, a real hockey fan never calls it ice hockey!
Dude... I know, I know. Good point. I actually added the word ice after I previewed my post. I didn't want someone busting out "roller" on me.
And I live in Los Angeles.... It's kinda hard to be taken seriously as a fan with the Kings as your favorite team. I have to wear a paper bag on my head. I will say this, I must admit my enthusiasm for Hockey has significantly diminished since the Lock Out. To me, It's just not the same.
13-03-08, 12:38 AM
#24
King, I've gotta tell ya, it's people like you that restore my faith in parts of the american nation.
That nothing happened when bush clearly got into office through underhanded means did a lot of damage to the US.
Love the fact that he's the only president never to have been able to do his walk up the steps of that hotel to accept the position.
That nothing happened when bush clearly got into office through underhanded means did a lot of damage to the US.
Love the fact that he's the only president never to have been able to do his walk up the steps of that hotel to accept the position.
13-03-08, 12:39 AM
#25
zwer Wrote:Even without traction control and a standard ECU, the car does so much of the work for the driver in F1. In NASCAR you've got the throttle, brake and h-pattern gear shift. Driver skill plays a far bigger role.
My god! I never knew... I think I might change jobs and become a professional driver, my car has throttle, brake, H-pattern gearing and I have to use the clutch!! Plus, add in the fact I too have no traction control and a standard ECU, shit I must be good, I don't even have someone talking to me through an earpiece telling me which way to turn on the oval track (plus I have to control my huge stereo at the same time!)
But seriously, I can see that Nascar takes a lot of skill, but it is completely different to the skill that an F1 driver has, and personally I'd take corners over ovals any day (in saying that I have been known to watch the occasional Nascar race if it's on)
the boy with the three stripes
13-03-08, 12:40 AM
#26
King of the Farm Wrote:Dude... I know, I know. Good point. I actually added the word ice after I previewed my post. I didn't want someone busting out "roller" on me.
did you know that you can play hockey without skates - ice or roller!
the boy with the three stripes
13-03-08, 10:43 AM
#28
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